Here’s how Plasma screwed my system: like a Windows virus!
If I needed one more reason to run away from KDE 5, the fate just gave it to me. It might have to do with Arch and how their derivatives are put together, but still, I don’t feel like repairing such a shit. I don’t want to go back to
twm, nor to
win starting Windows 3.1 from MS-DOS, but this was too much, and it definitely was the legendary last straw.
Oh, the good old times of Slackware 3.0. You were issuing
startx, and, provided the previously run
XFree86 -configure went well, in the end X was doing an
exec fvwm2. If I wanted a different window manager, all I had was to edit the last line of
.xinitrc. Nowadays, everything is so complex, and I never understood why.
I was in my installed Arch mix, obtained this way:
- I installed Salient OS KDE (originally v21.03).
- I added several DEs: XFCE, MATE, Cinnamon, i3. On occasions, I toggled between them.
- I added Chaotic-AUR, for 2-3 packages I preferred not to build from AUR.
- I just kept updating it as required.
Yesterday, I decided I no longer want to keep updating so many packages I don’t use, so I uninstalled whatever packages were in Cinnamon, i3, MATE, XFCE. Then I allowed the system to update, after some time of skipping all the updates (Windows habits die hard). As it also had a newer kernel, I decided to reboot.
It worked perfectly after the restart… or did it?
I wasn’t doing anything, I didn’t start any program, and updates, they were none. And yet, the CPU fan was busy, albeit not constantly. As it was the case, the CPU was oscillating between about 25% and 75%, for no good reason whatsoever!
The first thing I noticed: 3.04 GB of RAM! On a freshly started system?! Also, six Xorg instances?!
Sorting by CPU revealed that there wasn’t any single process to take unusual chunks of CPU. There were however too many of them busy with… what? Say… No less than 18 instances of
I also had six
konsole processes (I only opened one), and… 18
plasmashell instances to match the
Such a joke of a situation would have been impossible in all versions of Windows… except maybe for Windows 10, which is getting worse with every day (don’t get fooled by WSL 2). OK, what is this, a virus?
The RAM increased up to 3.34 GB, then it seemed to drop to a minimum of 1.38 GB:
After 15 minutes, I guessed maybe a reboot won’t hurt (Windows, again), but guess what?
Close to 3 GB of RAM for nothing, CPU load keeping the fan noisy, 18
plasmashell and 6
konsole for a single one: I must be dreaming! God, I want back to Windows 3.1!
And here’s how I decided to install something else instead of this shit.
NOT an Arch derivative.
NOT with KDE Plasma 5.
But also not GNOME and not something based on Ubuntu or Debian.
Is there anything, anything at all that’s not broken in 2021 in the software shitland?
Isn’t this more an Arch than Plasma related issue? Upgrading everything for the sake of it never made sense to me. I tried to understand and I failed…
Plasma in Arch, possibly. But that means Arch isn’t to be trusted!
In no matter which OS, you update or upgrade all the installed packages! You don’t say “but I don’t want to update this one” unless you have a good reason to block an update or even to downgrade a specific package. This could lead to breakages in time, though. Not to mention that Pamac typically updates everything.
I tried to understand what you didn’t, and I failed too.
My comment was related to rolling-release model in general and Arch’s upgrade policy in particular.
Considering the regressions and insufficient (or lack of?) testing at least the core system should be on release model (this includes DE for desktop users) ==> bug-fixes and security updates for fixed period of time. Userland upgrades on the other hand could use more liberal approach (compared to typical fixed/freeze release model).
But upgrade everything all the time – it’s insane (unless the user’s purpose is to maintain system for the sake of it and fix the crap new upgrades bring).
OK, now I understand, including your love of NixOS. I just tested NixOS and I found it “not ready for the prime time”… The concepts are not bad, but for the time being only the “traditional” distros are polished enough and friendly enough.
Unfortunately, possibly/probably not.
But all this is scary, we no longer know what to use…!?
Installing four DE’s, then removing most of them, and removing other stuff, is just asking for trouble. Do a fresh install to end up at what you want.
No, this is asking for freedom of choice, and for correct package dependencies.